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Infidelity – Is it really undefinable?

Infidelity – Is it really undefinable?
Carly Jacobs

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What’s your definition of cheating on your partner? I’ve been spending the afternoon reading an old stack of magazines and I came across an article in which the female writer claims that flirting, raunchy emails and developing emotionally revealing relationships counts as being unfaithful to your partner. My first reaction was repulsion, purely because I’m a total horn bag and I flirt with anything that moves – men, women, trees – and I would be devastated if anyone, especially Mr Smaggle, construed that as being unfaithful.

As I thought more about this I realised that my whore-like flirting is in fact my saving grace. It doesn’t discriminate, no one is safe from it and I do it in broad day light. I’ll often come home to my man and have a brag that I flirted my way to a discount when I got my car washed or that a guy asked for my phone number in a bar.  And I’m sure he would do the same if he had any clue when people are flirting with him. I have to point out to the sweet creature when he is getting sexy eyes from the girl making his coffee or when the gay guys at Saba give him a discount that’s a little too generous. The point I’m making is that fundamentally speaking, we are animals and just because some of us have chosen to partner up doesn’t automatically make us devoid of our natural desires. I still check out other guys. Mr Smaggle checks out other girls. I check out girls FOR Mr Smaggle and point out the ones with awesome tits. We know it’s only window shopping or like going to an art gallery or something. No harm done, but lets consider this – being in a committed relationship doesn’t stop you from being desired by other people either and I believe this is where the blurred lines of infidelity start to wreak havoc on our relationships. 

Obviously a little harmless flirting is fine but what if your partner feels desired by this person? More desired than you make them feel? What if they develop a serious emotional relationship? What if he or she was sending this person emails divulging information about your relationship? What if, at the end of everyday, your partner wants to talk to this person instead of you? Is that really any better than having sex with them? Is it more forgivable? I would argue that it’s just as harmful to threaten the emotional connection in your relationship. It is, however undoubtedly easier to forgive an emotional infidelity than a sexual one. If you come across a few secret text messages or a couple of naughty emails there’s this sense of having stopped the affair before it happened. Is that really the case though?

Perhaps it is. I had a partner cheat on me once, emotionally and sexually, and all I could think of was the physical betrayal. I didn’t give a toss about the evening phone calls, divulgences of life ambitions or the closeness that they shared. It was the simple act of him sticking his dick where he shouldn’t have. Hate to be crass but it was like a disgusting porn reel in my head for months after we broke up and don’t even start with me and the dirtiness of it all. The thought of sharing my toothbrush makes me want to hurl so you can imagine the mega brain spasm occurrence when my OCD gland got a hold of that information. *Shudder*

So what do you think? Emails and texts – do they count as cheating? Or does your partner need to commit a physical act for it to officially be a betrayal? Or does the physical act just totally annihilate the emotional affair so that it becomes redundant? Does an emotional cheat hurt more when it’s not followed by a physical one?

Just curious about my reader’s opinions on this matter. 

Love Lady Smaggle

xxx

20 Comments

  1. Elizabeth 15 years ago

    Nah, cheating is cheating. It’s the whole idea of being deceived that really upsets me.

    Also, I had a boyfriend cheat on me and his partner-in-crime knew all about me. That was particularly galling.

  2. Ms Constantine 15 years ago

    Flirting makes me jealous. Not counted as cheating but I’d really rather my partner didn’t flirt with other people. Especially as he’s very well aware how it makes me feel.
    Sexual emails and texts are like cheating to me, they’re not as bad as sex and if I really loved the person doing it I could move past it (and have) with a promise they’d never do it again.

    The physical act of cheating is an instant dismissal in my book. I could never move past that. An emotional affair preceding the physical one hurts more because it shows it wasn’t just a one time caught up in the lust of it thing. But whether the emotional aspect was there or not I could never be with the cheater again. I felt physically sick after learning that my (ex-)boyfriend had cheated on me.

  3. thebarelytattoodartist 15 years ago

    Emotional affairs and physical ones are a no-no in my book…basically, one partner isn’t getting all that they feel they should get from the other and is going out, looking for a new relationship…that’s how I see it…

    As for flirting, that’s ok in my book…we all flirt, even sometimes as kids, whether we are aware of it or not…its just what we do as humans…my husband and I had a talk about it and I told him not to feel jealous if I flirt with other guys because the one guy that matters is the one I come home to each and every night…he basically agreed with me and let me know how much of a flirt he was…

    So, to me atleast, flirting isn’t really cheating…you aren’t really looking for a relationship with that person and as long as you don’t take it too far (such as suggesting to go someplace private, meeting elsewhere at a different time, etc…), you are ok…

    I like how my husband chocks it all up…and I quote his actual words:

    ‘It’s ok to look at the menu from time to time, but when you start ordering, that’s when you get into trouble.’

    I love that man…

  4. serpentine 15 years ago

    Flirting is OK if it’s happy, ironic, not-going-to-go-anywhere flirting. Not OK if it’s actually intended to lead to a quickie. And if you’re a girl flirting with my boyfriend or husband, you had better be smiley and flirty with me too. Those bitches who flirt to see if they can spark some interest and make another person feel bad have got it coming to them.

    Sex is absolutely cheating. An emotional relationship is absolutely cheating too. In particular, talking about me to my rival is beyond cheating (can you tell that happened once). If I’m in a relationship with you, I trust you with certain physical and emotional things that are not for sharing with anyone else. There are emotions and discussions that you share with your buddies, and there are those that you share with someone who is closer than a buddy. You know the difference.

  5. E 15 years ago

    I think once you kill trust then everything goes out of the window – love, respect, credibility. Everyone seems to draw their own line.

  6. Laura 15 years ago

    Auuugh I usually just lurk but I’m drawn out of the woodwork to say – I had a horrible horrible relationship breakdown last year as a result of cheating, and it wasn’t ever physical beyond a few drunken makeout sessions.
    The aspect of it that made me upset (and furious in turn) was the emotional betrayal – the fact that he was trusting/talking to/spending time with someone else because he couldn’t handle it with me.
    It all kind of resolved okay, but my heart still races and I feel sick when I think about all that time I was telling myself “It’s okay, they’re just friends!”
    I’d say it’s all about how trust manifests itself in a particular relationship.

  7. Alan 15 years ago

    Flirting is great when it’s open, encouraged, and fun for all concerned. It’s healthy, as Lady Smaggle discusses. What’s unhealthy is the desire to control our partner through manipulation like jealousy, etc.

    I’m often entertained by people feeling justified in their jealousy, when it’s really a sign of insecurity and control issues. Think about it – what right does anyone have to control how someone else feels? That’s what people do when they control their partner through jealous, manipulative demands and outbursts.

    What’s really important is to be the best person we can be. If we want to keep our partner, we need to be someone worth keeping. If they feel like straying without talking to us about their feelings, that says more about the relationship and ourselves than it does about them. Their only issue is their inability to communicate, which is another issue altogether. But they’re unlikely to feel like communicating with us if they know we have absolutely no interest in discussing their feelings about anyone else, and will only react negatively to it.

    When someone feels like getting their needs met outside the relationship, it’s obvious that the relationship no longer serves them. It can be fixed, but only if sincere communication and effort is put into resolving the problems. But trying to control the partner through anger, jealousy, and other controlling methods, only helps to make the relationship worse.

    When someone physically cheats on their partner, it means the relationship has usually ended, but they’re still going through the motions of pretending it hasn’t.

    Just my 2 cents, of course. 🙂

  8. Miss Peregrin 15 years ago

    I don’t count flirting as cheating, provided my partner isn’t always flirting with other people and never flirting with me – I want a little attention over here too! But a little bit of flirting never hurt anyone.

    I am a little strange, in that while the physical act of cheating would hurt me, I would be more hurt by the emotional connection. I would be devastated if my partner told me they loved someone else, whereas I’d just be really pissed off if they told me they’d had a one night stand with someone else.

  9. Nina 15 years ago

    I think infidelity is defined by you and your partner. If your partner clearly states they feel uncomfortable when you flirt overtly with other people, then it’s not acceptable. If your partner is happy for you to have another lover, then that’s okay!

    Every couple has there own standards and most couples will have similar standards that they are aware of, otherwise you’re going to get into trouble!

    Clearly everyone has different opinions about what’s acceptable in a relationship. I think it’s about communicating what you feel comfortable with to your partner. There is no ‘one-size-fits-all’ definition of infidelity.

  10. Shannon 15 years ago

    I agree with Miss Peregrin – fucking is fucking, you can do that any old time. Its the emotional connection that makes (or breaks) a relationship and it’s a relationship that constitutes cheating.

  11. Michelle 15 years ago

    Me personally, the physical and emotional aspects of cheating are about equally important. Not that it would ever happen, but I think I would almost be better able to deal with a drunken one-night stand on my husband’s part, as opposed to a longstanding emotional infidelity. But I’m not one of the uber jealous types, I tease Matt if someone is blatantly checking him out while I’m standing right next to him (I hear ya, Smaggle, that boy is ridiculously oblivious sometimes!) but I would never get up in someone’s face about it or anything. And flirting, to me, is just being really friendly – and I’m one of those people who strikes up conversations with everyone and tries to make everyone smile and laugh, so I probably flirt constantly. It’s hard, because I don’t know how to state exactly where the line is, but I know when it’s being crossed and that’s what makes me angry/annoyed.

  12. aprill 15 years ago

    I think I would be more wrecked by the emotional, than the physical. Not that I could forgive the physical act, but the emotional attachment to the other person would be the most damaging.

  13. reckless daughter 15 years ago

    god, all I can say is this is a fitting post…I really don’t know what else to say other than discovering those type of emails/texts/calls many times don’t feel any less painful than actual physical cheating. It opens up a whole can of “well if they are doing this than how long before it turns into something else. Until they actually meet up with this person in the flesh? or has this already happened” and it makes you feel like your partner can’t get what they need from you – that you might be lacking something – so they have to use other outlets, so to speak. More likely it’s not about you. I’ve been on both sides of this (I prefer the less vulnerable side to be perfectly honest).

    you, my dear, seem to have a healthy relationship and that’s something I myself strive for. But it’s a balance – jealously & understanding.

    I understand and have come to terms with harmless flirting – it happens, I get it. By getting upset with those little things I would only assume you are creating more of a problem, aren’t you? because you are saying I can’t trust you in this situation. you shouldn’t do that, etc.

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  14. reckless daughter 15 years ago

    yikes, sorry for my accidental bad grammar 🙂 I pressed “say it” before proof reading

  15. Lita 15 years ago

    anything you’d be ashamed for your partnet to know.

  16. Lola 15 years ago

    For me, cheating is 100% about deception. If its not cool with both you and your partner then you shouldn’t be doing it. For some people, thats flirting, but for others (such as people in open relationships or people who get off on knowing their partner is having sex with someone else) you can have sex with others and its not cheating because both of you have agreed on it before hand you both know its going to happen and who its happening with and it makes both of you happy). I think people should talk about this sort of thing with their boyfriend/girlfriend to make sure that they are compatible on the what is/is not cheating with them, to make sure that no feelings are hurt. I also think you should take into account the feelings of others, if you know your best friend things flirting is cheating, don’t flirt with her boyfriend just because you and your bf are cool with it.

    For me personally, I don’t consider flirting (and I mean light fun happy flirting not flirting that is going anywhere) cheating. Then again, I was recently told by a friend that I flirt with everyone (boys, girls, park benches, butterflies..), a fact that I was previously unaware of (probably because when I’m trying to flirt its with someone I’m dating and its usually super suggestive and inappropriate. When I’m dating someone I also totally point out hot chicks for them to oogle (fun word!) so maybe thats just me.

  17. sarah von 15 years ago

    Unrelated – Happy Birthday, Lady – birthday twin of my BFF! Further evidence that we need to meet in real life. That and you’re my hair idol and my very own nose twin.

    • Lady Smaggle 15 years ago

      Sarah Von – Aw thanks! We should totally meet in real life! If you ever find yourself Australia bound drop me an email. We talk about noses and shit!

  18. Lady Smaggle 15 years ago

    Wow guys thanks so much for all your feedback! It’s so interesting to hear everyone’s point of view. Obviously it’s touchy subject and I thank everyone for their input! xxx

  19. it's.secret 15 years ago

    I’m a married mother and having a very flirtatious texting affair with a celebrity. You guys are the only ones to know. And no, it’s not a cricketer either.

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